Coronavirus - how much do you worry ?

[WLLady]

Well i have to agree with one thing-they need to test more. a lot more! test everyone! everywhere! maybe if we can get a good test we can at least get some of the people back to work. as a scientist i would suggest that testing and those with the antibodies who are effectively immune (of course THAT would also have to be figured out if antibodies=immune) AND not shedding anymore (there's data that fecal shedding can occur up to weeks after active symptoms have resolved), then those people get back to work doing whatever they were doing before this all hit. Then test, test test test. As long the the immune are not shedding, anyone that tests positive is isolated, remains in isolation. anyone in contact with the positive testing people stay isolated. Then hopefully we can slowly get those that didn't get infected back to work with those that are immune. BUT for this we need massive ongoing testing. multiple tests, daily testing. that's the only way i think it will be safe for everyone to start opening up the economy again. of course the bottleneck to this is the testing. but, i know of at least 40-50 people that would be qualified technically to help with testing IF there's PPE, IF there's access to equipment and reagents! So far they haven't tapped into the research world for people to help run the assays, because we aren't HC qualified. The resource is there....anyways, my useless 2 cents. for now i'll stay home, look after my puppy, and try to get off my getting wider butt from sitting at the computer all day.

[Killerbunny]

I have to agree with you. I don't think we'll be getting a vaccine anytime soon (or at least one I'd be prepared to risk). I was shocked "they" hadn't even considered pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic spread early on considering this is well known from other coronaviruses. I suspect a much larger segment of the population has been infected than they think. Once we have some real data you gain more knowledge. The other thing that takes resources and time is PPE training. DH used to do this in another life and it's not easy to make this second nature. As for some of the videos - yikes!
Off to my therapy turkey now, she too said some rude things this am and told me where eggs are supposed to go LOL!

[labradors]

I agree with KB, and was just reading about a town in Japan that weathered the first CVD hit and allowed people to go back to normal, then got walloped by the second wave, and it wasn't from travelers either!

I don't know what's going on with the testing here in Ontario, but we heard from an ICU nurse that there were two cases in the ICU where she works, and we know of one Covid-related death down the road. None of these cases made it into the statistics. How many more of them are there?

At least a month ago, I read of a town in Italy that was testing EVERYBODY every 10 days. It started off as a mistake, and uncovered the fact that there were asymptomatic people spreading the virus around. It seems so sad that each country has to learn by trial and error that you have to test the whole population or they will be right back to square one. It seems that nobody can learn from anybody else .

[Farrier1987]

Testing is great and I am all for it. But most dont realize what a huge undertaking it is. Ford want 13 000 tests a day done. City of Toronto is 4.5 million, and even at 20 000 a day, to test the city alone it would take close to 250 days. This is ONLY for the population of Toronto.

So say Trudeau and the scientists have the resources and people to do the country as a whole, we are getting on to a year just to test. And nothing is static, in that time, some will have had it and died or recovered, and someone that tested negative a month ago will now have it. Its looking more to me that the recovery will do more overall damage than the disease itself.

I am not all doom and gloom, and I believe we will get through this. I am just trying to emphasize how mind blowingly big the problem is. There is no one answer like "Test everybody." that is going to fix it. This is and will continue to be a process, not an event.

[poultry_admin]

Hopefully the ramp up in test capacity is happening...
First company that is ramping up 500 000 test capacity / week. Hopefully there are more companies gearing up...
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavir ... -1.4897267
Missing unfortunately in the article is when they reach 500k.

[Jaye]

SMH about the lockdown protesters in the US, as well as the response:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXLRkz2kzX8

Q: What borders on stupidity?
A: Canada and Mexico.

[ross]

This test it tells you you don’t have now but does it tell it’s not in your system as I’ve heard it could be there & incubate for 14 days & show up and test is good for today but not down rd ? Would u have to be tested every so many weeks ? Confused

[Killerbunny]

Nobody knows the answer to that @ross !

[ross]

Nobody knows the answer to that @ross !

What does it enable u do ?
So why test seems like a waste of time & resources

[Killerbunny]

OK so IMO testing is useful, immunological status especially. Thing is we don't know what we don't know and the more data we have will give us more and better knowledge of what we are dealing with. I believe that we will learn that there are many more people out there that show an immune response to it BUT either didn't realise they had it or just dismissed it as a cold. I also think it may have been here before we actually realised. This knowledge will allow us to have a proactive response rather than a reactive response because this will likely become endemic and roll around every few years. Problem is that if we don't have a herd immunity and our distancing becomes too good, in the future we will be hit like this repeatedly (a Stanford study mentioned something like this too). After SARS it was recommended that we ramp up our Healthcare system to deal with something like this in the future including PPE and elder care homes. Now our vulnerable population are having to deal with the shortcomings, that includes PSWs, healthcare and any frontline workers as well as the elderly and immunocompromised. Even MERS didn't give a real wakeup call. I'm sure @WLLady will know more about this.
ANyway just my maunderings.