Poultry Talk Ontario (pto.ca)

Interesting post on Facebook. Thought I'd share

"A warning to sellers and a buyer review

The last few days have been difficult at Precision Plymouth Rocks Inc. I feel the need to set the record straight. Please use common sense and take in the whole situation. My goal and intention is to find cooperative breeders for all of Precision Plymouth Rocks Inc. genetic lines. As I know how hard it is to find quality stock for these very rare breeds and varieties. Therefore I am as disappointed with received broken eggs as the client who receives them. A good cooperative breeder is as hard to find as a good bird.

First issue: Double yolks and deformed eggs.
First we do incubate and have hatched a double yolker. Actually the very first two females of out rose comb black leghorns where twins hatched from the same egg. A big egg does not mean a double yolk.
A deformed egg will have no bearing on the performance of the chick that hatches from it. The breeds we work with are very rare and every egg counts.

Packing and Shipping: I will let the photos speak for themselves. The eggs are wrapped individually and bubble wrap around each dozen with packing material use to fill the rest of the box. Both orders were packed the same manner. As far as eggs being received on their side. How many have you seen a broody hen store her eggs with the pointy end down? I do believe it would be naive to think the post service does not flip or stand the box on end at any point during the process. With the two most recent reviews one was shipped with Purolator and one with Canada Post with two very different results.

Customer Service. I spent a few weeks answering questions leading up to ship day. Such as getting photos of the parent stock, explaining the risk of shipped eggs. A word of advice to breeder to consider if a buyer can’t afford or is too cheap to buy your stock that you value because you know the hard work that goes into one good bird, it might be time to move on because there are as many who do and appreciate the hard work that goes in to each quality bird.

Now I wish people would appreciate what they have in these rare breeds and any chicks to come out of their eggs are special and should be greatly valued as all the Lines at Precision Plymouth Rocks Inc. have deep genetic roots and the blood sweat and tears of many great poultry breeders behind them just to name a few: Hardy Shore, John Sanders, Dick Nuiewland. It is ashamed that all these breeders hard work is wasted on people who would rather be concerned for their own welfare then the great genetics they received

After this experience Precision Plymouth Rocks Inc. will not offer to sell hatching eggs at all. I also encourage all breeder to implement the Jerry Foley rule. As we will not be the first or last breeder to have a no egg policy. I guess I have learned my lesson it is not worth the headaches shipped eggs carry enormous risk. — with Tracy Nutt and Megan Anderson."

And this photo accompanied the post

The above post was Steves response after 2 days of his reputation being hammered on by 2 Western Canadian customers . I thought he took the high road in the attacks on his reputation .

sometimes customers can be relentless and classless. Unfortunatrly in this day of social media it can spread like wild fire regardless of the level of truth. A conflict should be handled professionally, but not everyone has the class or capability to do that. Shameful really.

Thanks for clarifying. I wondered what had triggered this.

That would be a shame if breeders stopped shipping eggs, our Canadian breeds gene pool will get that much smaller in the local regions.

Poultry breeders review Canada on facebook is where it all took place .While the concept of this site is good , whenever a show breeder sells there always seems to be an attack on their reputation by the chick mill types after . It is very nasty at times

This is precisely one example of why we closed the classifieds and put them on the front page....its really too bad...if people worked together and had realistic expectations i am sure that most things could be worked out to a benefit to both parties. Sigh.
At my work i do a lot of people managing....it is a true challenge and not everyone will be happy all the time every day. Too bad he has shut down selling hatching eggs because of a few outspoken people who dont understand that speak your piece and let it go and deal with it professionally...facebook is not the professional way to deal with anything!!!!
(BIG SIGH HERE)

I agree!!! Slashing on Facebook is like a baseball bat to the back of the knees when they're not looking.

wth... did a customer scramble all those eggs? why? I once put a bandaid on a shipped cracked egg n it hatched!

what was this ignoramus problem Bob? before I got the reds I took a good long look at PPR, their reputation is amazing and I wanted heritage birds that were bred right.... hes so right every egg counts!

is poultry breeders of Canada affiliated with chea... I took the liberty of removing myself from all those groups.

I just looked up the group-i unsubscribed from them after being a member for about a week...that was it....lots of the same members as chea and other groups which i also left-just too much i didnt need or want to hear. :-(

alright they let me join the group so they are not affiliated with chea. LOL I read the 2 terrible and ridiculous reviews. they are both basically complaing about buying shipped eggs. you roll the dice with shipped eggs not cry about it. I dont blame him for not selling eggs anymore. he packaged and shipped them very well, 1 package avrived perfectly fine. i dont see the problem. the other had a couple cracked eggs. some of the eggs mishappen and double yolkers... big deal.

it looks like most of the thread has been deleted so I cant read it all or see the other pics.

its really not right how hes been treated but props to him.