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Unhealthy hen

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:26 pm
by Farrier1987
Today, mid afternoon, saw a hen wasnt doing so well. Just sort of huddled. Didnt move when I threw grain.

This evening at close up time, she was inside, still sort of huddled and eyes sort of half open. I picked her up to see if I could find anything.

She hadnt been limping or anything, but I found a bumblefoot on the side of the main pad, not on the bottom like usual. I picked it with my fingernails, mostly to clean it a little and see if I had to open it or what. And the bumblefoot core, like a small corn kernel just came out with the scab. Sort of filled the hole with antiseptic ointment. Set her down and she almost fell over. So I picked her up and set her in a nest box. Will see how she is in the morning.

So to my question: Is or does bumblefoot infection become systemic? What bacteria causes it? Anything else anyone else might have done? Thought and opinions are encouraged.

PS, I washed my hands after I came in.

Re: Unhealthy hen

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:50 pm
by Killerbunny
I think that you've done eveything you can. Bumblefoot is caused by Staph.aureus infection. Yes it can become systemic but that is not common due to the poorer blood supply to the foot. I suspect something else may be going on. And as vets say "did you have a ritz cracker ready"

Re: Unhealthy hen

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:21 am
by Farrier1987
Dam I hate when they go and die on me.

Re: Unhealthy hen

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:54 am
by ross
If they breath they die , even vehicles . Sorry man . Always the favourites

Re: Unhealthy hen

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:40 am
by labradors
Farrier, I'm so sorry for your loss.

Linda

Re: Unhealthy hen

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:43 pm
by Killerbunny
@Farrier1987 thing is by the time they start to look sick it's normally too late.

Re: Unhealthy hen

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:53 pm
by Kbr42
It's a shame...sorry for your loss.......

Re: Unhealthy hen

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:48 pm
by kenya
So sorry to hear this.

Re: Unhealthy hen

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:07 am
by KimChick
Farrrier - Bumblefoot was included with our introduction to keeping hens. With ours, it is usually caused by a cut in the foot that gets infected. We're on a century old farm, and with that, there can be broken glass where the hens dust bathe. And I've gone through their yard with a metal detector and found old nails, bits of fencing, and other small pieces.
That was really good that the kernel came out cleanly and that you bandaged it. We usually bathe the feet in warm water, a bit of soap and Epsom salts, scrape out what we can, spray on Vetracin, then bandage the foot with polysporin, gauze and vetwrap.
Has your hen survived?

Re: Unhealthy hen

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:44 am
by WLLady
Sorry farrier. But i doubt that was the bumblefoot. If they are hunched and just sitting eyes closed or half closed and not caring about being moved or anything, they're weak....very very weak and will go any time. It's usually either extreme old age, or heart failure or liver failure in my experience. I've had horrible horrible bumblefoot that never went systemic....in fact, it rarely goes systemic without travelling up the leg first at least a little bit. So my bet is something else was going on, and without an autopsy you will likely never know....but the ones that go on me that way are always either heart failure or some other organ failure. I'm really sorry.....its still sucks. BIGTIME.