Grrr...vegans! :)

[kenya]

They had a specialist on the radio and he said the heart diet had been proven totally wrong but when a physician tried to advocate a different diet that was proven to work he was told to stop or he would be fired.

[TomK]

This isn't so much about what we ingest but a similar vein..a little while ago MJ and I attended a presentation on ticks and the current scourge of Lyme disease...this is something that the medical folks in our system are seemingly trying extra hard to ignore...there are several, if not many, advocacy groups in Canada and the gal that was giving the talk was a member of one of these groups and promoted our checking out the current information on their website, which we did on returning home...MJ in particular, was impressed with the info and posted the link on her facebook page for anyone of her 'friends' who might be interested enough to check it out...the nxt morning she got a PM from one of her parent dad's in her daycare facility requesting that she remove her posting as, in his words, the information was badly presented and full of incorrect medical data and information and being a physician himself he thought that it was inappropriate for her to have posted this association's link...now, many of you have never met my better half, but she doesn't take kindly to being told what to do but she is also very civil and tries extremely hard not to be discourteous in any way...but this guy got the the polite PC version of ' kindly take a hike' ...but if he was so adamantly in contradiction to what the link had to say, perhaps he would be willing to come in one evening and present to the parent group his and the curent medical association pedigodgy on what should be done about Lyme, assuming of course, that he even thought Lyme was real...so far nothing....but that's my point in my long winded way of getting to it...the medicos are so far behind on things they are actually preaching doing things that have been already proven incorrect by the general public...Becel?...really?...crap in a tub...NOONE should ingest that stuff...gah!!!!!!!

[Happy]

It all goes hand in hand. Fake news...Fake food. Both will take the human race down eventually.

[Skinny rooster]

Becel is bad now!!!???!!! I thought that was supposed to be the only good one, that's what I use all the time, good grief. I try to eat only real food now, things that got cut off a plant or was running around and had to be caught. Any other goop, mush, paste, rolls, balls, tubes, salted, smoked, pickled or what have you, I try to avoid because the mush that is the healthiest food for you this year, gives you cancer net year, it's too confusing. There is a doctor out now saying that underground vegetables like carrots, beets and potatoes cause Alzheimer's disease because of the sugars in them.

As for people caring about their birds, the people on here do... obviously. However the factory farms with owners who never go near their barns and hire minimum wage workers to look after them, I will take a guess and say they just see numbers, so it's both ways.

The type of vegetarian or vegan or animal rights people who start those conversations, see their beliefs similar to a religion, it's an ideology so there is no point debating with them, you are never going to convert them, they will muddy facts with emotion and what they "want" to believe. My eyes were opened when I would visit a friend and his place is surrounded by miles and miles of soybean and corn fields. Everything is sprayed and cultivated to the maximum, there is not another plant around other than the crops. Compare that to the pastures where I live, they are filled with every kind of grass and wild flowers you can think of, trees, shrubs, bees, bugs, birds, little animals, medium animals, big animals and those are the wild animals, I'm not counting the domestic animals. Now which is more friendly towards the environment? Plus there are no fuel burning tractors running up and down, up and down in the pastures.

[labradors]

Going off the subject here a bit, but I read the book "Nourishing Traditions" years ago, and happily embraced the "good" fats in butter and whole milk. I never could stand margarine.....

NT is written by Sally Fallon who was closely tied to the Weston A. Price Foundation. Price was a dentist who travelled the world examining people's teeth, and learned that a healthy diet is SO important in the formation of healthy bones and teeth. Those of us from Europe who traditionally ate a lot of wheat, ended up with narrow faces and crowded teeth, whereas the poorer people who were limited to a diet high in potatoes had wider faces and better teeth!

It's interesting stuff :).