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Post by Maximus » Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:57 am

On Facebook this morning there is a 'warning' more or less for backyard flock keepers.
I don't trust the CFIA I think their standards are sub-class. Although they aren't the enemy they aren't welcome in my backyard.

None the less, thought I would share with y'all. This is common knowledge, but here it is, compliments of the know-it-all CFIA.

I know a forum members partner works somewhere in the CFIA field. my lack of respect for the CFIA is obviously not personal.

http://inspection.gc.ca/animals/terrest ... ion=French
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Post by ross » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:25 am

All common sense to me . These guidelines have been around for years in many top notch poultry operations , even backyard , world wide . Nothing new that CFIA just pulled out of hat & actually brought about by many poultry enthusiasts . Not out to get you just to help those who want it . Luck
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Post by modern17 » Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:59 am

Ross is correct... I work extensively with both CFIA and OMAFRA as a liason between them and the commercial sector so we as a exhibition/Hobbyist group have a voice when it comes to this sort of stuff.. they are not the bad guys here ... all this that is put out is like Ross has indicated to help us protect our flocks... although we can not follow the rules that the commercial sector follows ( or is suppose to follow) .. we do need to protect ourselves as best we can with our operations... the diseases mentioned in the link you provided ... are not exclusive to the commercial sector... but are applicable to all avian species...all these suggestions are just common sense and just that suggestions... I work hard to prevent silliness from occurring in the way of rules that we can not live with .. so these guidelines are a much easier pill to swallow than being told .. you must... Anyway. my 2 cents.
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Post by Skinny rooster » Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:42 am

Sure government wants to know everything about us, not that they really care, it gives them work to keep volumes and volumes of info about us; however in this case it's all good advice. I have posted before that by winter I will be completely out of poultry keeping and I can tell you that if I get the chance to go back in, I am going to be five times more strict about bio security than they ask for. Once you have needlessly lost good birds to something that could have been prevented, you become (hopefully) better educated towards diseases and keeping them out of your flock.
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Post by Maximus » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:00 am

As stated in my post they aren't the enemy, however, I don't have much respect for the CFIA. The lack of respect stems from non-poultry backyard keeper related items. ( hypocrites: their animal factory regulations and 'happenings' are deplorable). That's all I'm saying about this, because it is a hot topic for me and I can't be objective anymore.

I firmly believe the future of backyard poultry keepers will be like dog or hunting tags. Want chickens? Here we come with regulations, licenses, inspections, quantity/inventory control etc. That is when I will leave the hobby behind, if not sooner.
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Post by thegawd » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:12 am

as a conspiracy nut, I may not agree with all their regulations but I believe they have done a fantastic job handling all the avian influenza outbreaks that we have had. I also believe none of that would have been possible without Troy working with them and getting us backyarders involved and giving us a voice. I recorded all but 1 of the conference calls that we were invited to partake in to gain up to date information of what was going on and I still have those calls. just take a look at how the US handled the same situation, that was a terrible hot mess.

Thanks again Troy!

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Post by Killerbunny » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:15 am

I agree AL it could have been much worse without those conference calls and Troys great work. I got a very good package of info from OMAFRA and it's well put together.
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Post by WLLady » Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:27 am

funny enough i did my PhD in the same lab as the fellow that headed the entire avian flu investigation on the west coast when it popped up there, and again here in ontario he was involved. Super nice guy, and they did a really great job of containing it-so we didn't have a repeat performance like what is STILL going on in places in the USA.

yes, all it takes is losing your birds. and all it takes is 1 bird to give you a pile of dead birds. and at that point you want every possible avenue of help that you can get.....
and i know how lax i am with my free rangers, and once they are processed and safely tucked into my freezer i always breath a sigh of relief...
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Post by baronrenfrew » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:21 pm

The downside of gov't is "over regulation", partiularly wirh selling processed birds and eggs. The intention is to keep people safe from salmonella and other diseases, but it also stops small poultry producers from going into business and selling meat/eggs to their neighbours. E.g. In Vermont a mobile chicken processor travels from farm to farm and the farmer is allowed to sell fresh or frozen birds. It is licensed by the state and i expect the meat contains a label that it was " processed on site by a mobile facility." Mobile processors do exist here but then by law the meat may not leave the property. So these guys operate in a "grey market". Its even more restrictive for beef and pork or other meat. We had a calf that had an accident and dislocated its front shoulder so it spent all summer grazing near the pond. Come fall we couldn't send it to a butcher so we had to do it here ourselves as it was deemed "unfit".
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Post by baronrenfrew » Wed Sep 21, 2016 1:34 pm

In 2001 the laws changed. After that date it was illegal to kill an animal and have the meat leave the property. So a small farmer and his buddy (an RCMP officer) killed a pig, quartered it and the buddy tried to drive away with one half so he could make his own sausage at home. The food inspection people moved in like a SWAT team including police and brought many charges on the farmer and friend. The friend pleaded guilty so his job wasn't compromised, the farmer spent years and over $50,000 in court defending himself for an activity that was legal from the beginnings of Canada to the previous year. This was from a news story on CBC radio including an interview with the farmer.

I spoke to a meat inspector (off the record) and he stated that the big processors are found in violation of regs all the time but are not found guilty or the offence made public for the damage to the "brand" and the publicity and "public good". The regs are thrown at the little guys and abbatoirs with enormous fines often putting them out of business. One abbatoir got in trouble for having paint peeling from the ceiling in the office, even though this had no impact on food safety in any way. It appears that many new rules and regs are to drive the little guys out of business to the benefit of the big meat companies.
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