Norman Rockwell's "turkey type"

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Post by Ontario Chick » Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:31 pm

ross wrote:QR_BBPOST Being a painting & how long it is from front tu back it could be a young Emu . Luck
Haven't thought of that ;) I am with Al, I think it's a Beltsville white, it does seem a bit long, probably an artists impression of bird of plenty. ;)
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Post by Home Grown Poultry » Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:41 am

heres why I think its a beltsville... a survey was completed in 1936, people wanted a different bird than was currently available. one that dressed out to a decent weight with lots of meat but still fit in a roasting pan, in small ovens, in apartment sized refrigerators and free of dark pin feathers. in 1934 the bswt breeding program started and was completed in 1941 with a bird that fit the consumer demand. it entered the APA in 1951 and by the mid 50's saw the height of its popularity. its demise was the commercial factory farms wanting a marketable bird in half the time but could also grow much larger for the resturant and hotel market. it was replaced by the broad breasted white in the mid 60's. it almost went extinct in the 70's and would have if a few research flocks didnt exists in some universities.

So thats pretty much a synopsis on the hystory of the BSWT, the best turkey in the world and the reasons why I think that bird pictured is a full grown tom. tommorow I'll dig up a pic of ours from last xmas, he was a 3 years old bird and was still moist, juicy, deliciously mouth watering incredibly amazingly fall off the bone good!

Okay good night all!

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more info from the Livestock Conservancy...

https://livestockconservancy.org/index. ... beltsville
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Post by windwalkingwolf » Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:31 am

Yes! A real picture to compare the painting to...I have several BSW, but none of them have had their clothes off LOL
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Post by Ontario Chick » Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:28 am

windwalkingwolf wrote:QR_BBPOST Yes! A real picture to compare the painting to...I have several BSW, but none of them have had their clothes off LOL
So who is having one for Christmas?? we could do our own PTO version of Norman Rockwell's painting. ;)
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Post by Flat Rock Farm » Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:34 am

thegawd wrote:QR_BBPOST me too! the kids fight over the legs, kinda hard when theres 6 kids and only 2 legs. HAHAHA :-D

LOL you need to develop at 6 legged turkey there Al. I am lucky in my family I am the only one who likes dark meat, so it's ALL for me muhuhu!! LOL Don't care how it's cooked white meat is too dry unless I have it smothered in..........gravy!! Apparently if you cover the breast with bacon it's supposed to keep it more moist?? I haven't cooked a turkey in years we always do Christmas or Thanksgiving at my 91 year old Mother-In-Law's and sister-in-law always does the meat :(.

Sorry have no idea what kind of turkey this would be in the picture, but what Al says makes sense so I am going on his assumption!! ;)
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Post by windwalkingwolf » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:14 pm

We did a turkey covered in bacon once, never again. Most of the bacon-y flavour leeches out of the bacon, but doesn't really go into the meat, the texture of the bacon gets kind of gross, and you don't end up with nice crispy turkey skin. Maybe I did it wrong, I don't know. I thought "bacon plus turkey? Heck ya" but after trying it it was heck no! My brother worked for a restaurant at one time, and they cooked their turkeys covered in dough to hold in moisture, I thought it would be a plus to also have biscuits for gravy...so we tried that one year too. Also a heck no. The turkey was so moist it was mush especially the surface. Ew. Anyway though, I lied when I said I never had a bsw with clothes off, one prolapsed lat last winter and was culled, but she didn't look like that that I recall, more like a large chicken LOL. We need an old tom to compare to.
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Post by Jaye » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:20 pm

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned brining yet. My SIL brines her Christmas turkey, and it turns out really moist every time.
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Post by kenya » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:28 pm

I go for the Turkey wings! No buffalo wings for me I go for mammoth wings! Love the breast meat as well, I like the dryer meat, crispy, yum!!!
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Post by Ontario Chick » Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:04 pm

windwalkingwolf wrote:QR_BBPOST We did a turkey covered in bacon once, never again. Most of the bacon-y flavour leeches out of the bacon, but doesn't really go into the meat, the texture of the bacon gets kind of gross, and you don't end up with nice crispy turkey skin. Maybe I did it wrong, I don't know.
You have to wait until the skin starts to turn very light golden and then put the strips of bacon on, works as if you are basting it.
Since I don't ever roast a whole turkey (prefer to cook the white and dark meat differently)...
Here is my version of Beltsville white breast, the "champion line" :)
Beltsville Small  White turkey.jpg
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Post by Home Grown Poultry » Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:22 pm

MMMMM OC That looks Delicious!!!

okay so I found the pics from last year, even our own version of this painting, but I thought I had a better side profile pic of the bird. hmmm cant seem to find them, these pics were all ready posted on here.

dressed

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cooked
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our portrait minus the parents haha, the bird is in the middle but ya cant really see it. this xmas I'll position the bird much better. :-)

HAHA

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