Poultry Talk Ontario (pto.ca)

it wouldnt suprise me if these fast food companies started a egg production farm called "cage free eggs" so they can fill their demand and keep their customers happy... sorta like how mcd had there beef coming from a company called "100% pure beef". LOL.

man im soooooo glad we all produce our own eggs!

If yuve been following the layers in cages discussions its the companys belief in giving the customer what they believe they want it will show in sales up or down & seeing that free range outside wont work this is next best thing in customers mind without knowing all the facts even as seen on here PTO when chickens left to own will cannabilise . In another article i read where the chicken board is working how to make happen for those farmers who want to pursue by 2016 . To tear out & throw away pens is to expensive & will probably done as old cages need replacing . When you see that MC Donalds only uses 5% according to chicken bd of Canadian eggs produced dont think you will see much change & costs will be entered into that as well . Interesting times we are moving into in the ag business . Personally I prefer a choice on what i eat which if not given at one place of business they dont get my business . Luck

check out this free range egg operation in New Zeland... chickens getting to be 100% chickens! its amazing! other than the fence surrounding the massive pasture there is no protection from above...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Oaa-5CbWLY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

That dont look like Canada to me . Looks like it brought its own problems . Not sure if regulated now or not . As i say interesting times & its been going on since the Hippy Daze of the 60's . Luck

Ain't that something! I didn't think you could keep a flock that big together.
Better yet: their website shows eggs as "mixed grade", and I don't think thats legal here.
One small farmer on southern Ontario has 10,000 chickens and has had em 40 years, but now he MUST ship his eggs away for grading (weighed for size for packaging) and the eggs he gets back ARE NOT THE ONES HE SENT OUT! He tried fighting them but he's too small and near retirement. (Article in The Landowner)

Seems there in a very LARGE fence pen holding area . Id imagine when they get hungry they go back in . I see wire on top of exit/ entry way wonder if their hawks , only have 3 kind & one lives in swamp areas , are like hawks here with my pigeons & like to hit when all together on ramp / roof . I stand at my pigeon trap when they come to kit bx so nothin gets them when going inside .

ya it would definitely be really hard to accomplish that here with our weather and birds of prey. they dont really have any BOD in New Zealand that would eat a chicken.

times are changing and as long as were still allowed to keep chickens and eat the fruits of our labour im a happy man!

Without 'enhanced housing', these 'cage free' birds are just going to lay their eggs on the floor or wherever they happen to be, and this would translate into big $$ losses for the farmer (I use that term loosely) which WOULD get passed on to consumer. I think any farmer with the least bit of involvement with their hens would realize that if they MUST go cage free, then they must have safe clean facilities esp. egg laying areas...or risk going belly up.

thegawd wrote:QR_BBPOST it wouldnt suprise me if these fast food companies started a egg production farm called "cage free eggs" so they can fill their demand and keep their customers happy... sorta like how mcd had there beef coming from a company called "100% pure beef". LOL.

man im soooooo glad we all produce our own eggs!

I am not defending McRaunchys in any way what so ever, but there never was a company called 100% beef. When you search the business registry you can see if it was ever registered and if so, who has it. It was a rumour that still haunts McD's today. I did a big presentation in college (went back in my middle-late 30's for my environmental science certificate) and studied the effects of factory farms environmental impacts etc. During that presentation preparation, registered farms were logged etc. It's a rumour. A damn good one cause it's still alive today lol! Their beef supplier is Cargill (two L's or one?) now if they have changed in the last 10 years could be, but I doubt McD's would be so dumb as to register a farm in the name of a company that has hindered them.
Just thought I'd share.