PAINT ~ Silkie breeding?
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PAINT ~ Silkie breeding?
I'm trying to understand "PAINT" in silkies.
This is something I read on the web about it,
Big questions is HOW the heck would I know if I have a White silkie with a Dominant or Recessive???
{{ Does this mean I could take a Black silkie, breed it to a White & "maybe" get a Paint? }}
ON THE WEB DEFINITION ~
Paints are genetically a black chicken that carries one dominant white gene. One dominant white gene does not always cover all the black- so some black will leak through the white- this produces a paint. If a black bird carries two dominant white genes the black is usually completely covered so you get a white bird and not a paint. The trick is to breed the birds so that you produce very few birds that carry two dominant white genes.
There is another gene that can cause a bird to be white- it is the recessive white gene. Paints are not recessive white. If you cross a recessive white to a black, all of the offspring should be black. There is the chance that the black can carry one recessive white gene; then 1/2 the chicks will be recessive white and 1/2 will be black. NO PAINTS WILL BE PRODUCED ONLY WHITES. The black offspring from this cross will be carriers and should not be used to breed for paints.
paint x paint = about 1/2 paint offspring, some white offspring and some black offspring
paint x white ( dominant white)= about 1/2 paint and 1/2 white
white (dominant white) x black = most will be paints ( birds carrying one dominant white gene can be solid white)
white (recessive white) x black (carries recessive white) = 1/2 white and 1/2 black ( NO PAINTS ARE PRODUCED)
This is something I read on the web about it,
Big questions is HOW the heck would I know if I have a White silkie with a Dominant or Recessive???
{{ Does this mean I could take a Black silkie, breed it to a White & "maybe" get a Paint? }}
ON THE WEB DEFINITION ~
Paints are genetically a black chicken that carries one dominant white gene. One dominant white gene does not always cover all the black- so some black will leak through the white- this produces a paint. If a black bird carries two dominant white genes the black is usually completely covered so you get a white bird and not a paint. The trick is to breed the birds so that you produce very few birds that carry two dominant white genes.
There is another gene that can cause a bird to be white- it is the recessive white gene. Paints are not recessive white. If you cross a recessive white to a black, all of the offspring should be black. There is the chance that the black can carry one recessive white gene; then 1/2 the chicks will be recessive white and 1/2 will be black. NO PAINTS WILL BE PRODUCED ONLY WHITES. The black offspring from this cross will be carriers and should not be used to breed for paints.
paint x paint = about 1/2 paint offspring, some white offspring and some black offspring
paint x white ( dominant white)= about 1/2 paint and 1/2 white
white (dominant white) x black = most will be paints ( birds carrying one dominant white gene can be solid white)
white (recessive white) x black (carries recessive white) = 1/2 white and 1/2 black ( NO PAINTS ARE PRODUCED)
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I do have them on my page somewhere. I'll try to attach it here.
I breed paint to black, and paint to paint. I find the 50% usually true, although I sometimes get more, sometimes less. I suppose over a span of time it works out about right according to the charts. I've never used whites in my paints, the odds of getting a paint are super low (if at all) and since I have paints and blacks I've never had to need to experiment breeding with whites. I'm sure i have a few dominant and recessive whites, but I'd rather keep the black and paint percentages straight.
I breed paint to black, and paint to paint. I find the 50% usually true, although I sometimes get more, sometimes less. I suppose over a span of time it works out about right according to the charts. I've never used whites in my paints, the odds of getting a paint are super low (if at all) and since I have paints and blacks I've never had to need to experiment breeding with whites. I'm sure i have a few dominant and recessive whites, but I'd rather keep the black and paint percentages straight.
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PAINT ~ Silkie breeding?
I would LUV to see any pics of your paints.
"NO" I do NOT have any paints....I was trying to figure out IF I should get any.
I luv the look of them, but it sounds like another project ~ which I do NOT need!
It sounds like if I take on Paints, it's a crap shoot "IF" I will get any paints in return
( unless I have paint on paint = I need More paint birds! )
I currently have ~
7 White Showgirls (1 roo, 2 cockerel, 4 showgirl ladies)
Blue Showgirl roo, + 4 GIRLS ~ ( blue silkie, blue Showgirl, blue Stripper & a Splash pullet)
WHITE Stripper rooster + 1 white silkie hen
White Frizzle cockerel & 2 frizzle pullets.
( oh I also have 2 other flocks of standard sized birds, but it's the Splack & Paints that are "interesting" right now - LOL )
"NO" I do NOT have any paints....I was trying to figure out IF I should get any.
I luv the look of them, but it sounds like another project ~ which I do NOT need!
It sounds like if I take on Paints, it's a crap shoot "IF" I will get any paints in return
( unless I have paint on paint = I need More paint birds! )
I currently have ~
7 White Showgirls (1 roo, 2 cockerel, 4 showgirl ladies)
Blue Showgirl roo, + 4 GIRLS ~ ( blue silkie, blue Showgirl, blue Stripper & a Splash pullet)
WHITE Stripper rooster + 1 white silkie hen
White Frizzle cockerel & 2 frizzle pullets.
( oh I also have 2 other flocks of standard sized birds, but it's the Splack & Paints that are "interesting" right now - LOL )
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@Madison174 should have some paints. I also put up a chart somewhere with the silkie chart. Hmm. Let me go and look in resources.
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THANK YOU for the charts!
I didn't have all of them in my files.
Doesn't show "Paint" but alot of great Blue info (*o*)
Which is good as I have Blues
I didn't have all of them in my files.
Doesn't show "Paint" but alot of great Blue info (*o*)
Which is good as I have Blues
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I do have them on my page somewhere. I'll try to attach it here.
I breed paint to black, and paint to paint. I find the 50% usually true, although I sometimes get more, sometimes less. I suppose over a span of time it works out about right according to the charts. I've never used whites in my paints, the odds of getting a paint are super low (if at all) and since I have paints and blacks I've never had to need to experiment breeding with whites. I'm sure i have a few dominant and recessive whites, but I'd rather keep the black and paint percentages straight.
I breed paint to black, and paint to paint. I find the 50% usually true, although I sometimes get more, sometimes less. I suppose over a span of time it works out about right according to the charts. I've never used whites in my paints, the odds of getting a paint are super low (if at all) and since I have paints and blacks I've never had to need to experiment breeding with whites. I'm sure i have a few dominant and recessive whites, but I'd rather keep the black and paint percentages straight.
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On the chart above, the blackxwhite isn't accurate. It's not my drawing so I can't edit it.
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